Comments on: Thanksgiving, Macy’s, and the Shrek marketing machine http://www.parentsforethicalmarketing.org/blog/2007/11/21/thanksgiving-macys-and-the-shrek-marketing-machine/ Blog of Parents for Ethical Marketing Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:43:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: Karen http://www.parentsforethicalmarketing.org/blog/2007/11/21/thanksgiving-macys-and-the-shrek-marketing-machine/#comment-111 Karen Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:43:51 +0000 http://www.parentsforethicalmarketing.org/blog/2007/11/21/thanksgiving-macys-and-the-shrek-marketing-machine/#comment-111 Anne, I recognize that my first comment was flippant and it clearly hit a nerve for you. I apologize if I've caused you pain. I also recognize that people who are isolated may decide that television is better than nothing. I'd never want to take away that choice from them and don't know why you think I would. I have actually given up television, to protect myself and my family. Do you mean, would I advocate television disappearing from the face of the earth? I wouldn't waste my time, even if I thought it would be a good idea. Which I don't. I do wish that people didn't take the presence of television in every American's life as a given. I don't know a lot of people, but I do know a few families besides my own where there is no television. I wish that television were more regulated, particularly advertising on television. I don't think that's an unreasonable wish, or one that is likely to come true soon. But I do hope it will come true some day, and I think the results will be good. You obviously have other wishes. I'm interested in them, if you feel like sharing them. How do you wish things would change? I do avoid that which I perceive as wrong, and involve myself in what I believe is right. Why do you think that I don't? Anne, I recognize that my first comment was flippant and it clearly hit a nerve for you. I apologize if I’ve caused you pain. I also recognize that people who are isolated may decide that television is better than nothing. I’d never want to take away that choice from them and don’t know why you think I would.

I have actually given up television, to protect myself and my family. Do you mean, would I advocate television disappearing from the face of the earth? I wouldn’t waste my time, even if I thought it would be a good idea. Which I don’t. I do wish that people didn’t take the presence of television in every American’s life as a given. I don’t know a lot of people, but I do know a few families besides my own where there is no television. I wish that television were more regulated, particularly advertising on television. I don’t think that’s an unreasonable wish, or one that is likely to come true soon. But I do hope it will come true some day, and I think the results will be good. You obviously have other wishes. I’m interested in them, if you feel like sharing them. How do you wish things would change?

I do avoid that which I perceive as wrong, and involve myself in what I believe is right. Why do you think that I don’t?

]]> By: Anne http://www.parentsforethicalmarketing.org/blog/2007/11/21/thanksgiving-macys-and-the-shrek-marketing-machine/#comment-105 Anne Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:40:32 +0000 http://www.parentsforethicalmarketing.org/blog/2007/11/21/thanksgiving-macys-and-the-shrek-marketing-machine/#comment-105 Karen....are you ready to give up television entirely in order to protect the world? Would that make you feel better. Have you developed the energy to face life head on and make your own decisions...avoiding what you perceive as wrong, and involving yourself in what you believe is right. That might be an easier path rather than pointing the finger and attempting to place blame on everyone else other than yourself! Why not shoulder some decision making responsibility rather than formulate what you perceive to be inflammatory statements that you think will make a difference. Karen….are you ready to give up television entirely in order to protect the world? Would that make you feel better. Have you developed the energy to face life head on and make your own decisions…avoiding what you perceive as wrong, and involving yourself in what you believe is right. That might be an easier path rather than pointing the finger and attempting to place blame on everyone else other than yourself! Why not shoulder some decision making responsibility rather than formulate what you perceive to be inflammatory statements that you think will make a difference.

]]> By: Karen http://www.parentsforethicalmarketing.org/blog/2007/11/21/thanksgiving-macys-and-the-shrek-marketing-machine/#comment-96 Karen Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:57:57 +0000 http://www.parentsforethicalmarketing.org/blog/2007/11/21/thanksgiving-macys-and-the-shrek-marketing-machine/#comment-96 Anne, you give lots of reasons I hadn't thought of to watch tv on Thanksgiving. Next year, I'll be sure to appreciate the patriotic symbolism of giant, gas-filled balloon representations of cartoon characters drifting through the concrete jungle. ;-) Anne, you give lots of reasons I hadn’t thought of to watch tv on Thanksgiving. Next year, I’ll be sure to appreciate the patriotic symbolism of giant, gas-filled balloon representations of cartoon characters drifting through the concrete jungle. ;-)

]]> By: Anne http://www.parentsforethicalmarketing.org/blog/2007/11/21/thanksgiving-macys-and-the-shrek-marketing-machine/#comment-93 Anne Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:29:39 +0000 http://www.parentsforethicalmarketing.org/blog/2007/11/21/thanksgiving-macys-and-the-shrek-marketing-machine/#comment-93 You certainly have quite a bit of empathy for those souls in rest homes, step-down units, elderly care unit, VA hospitals, local hospitals, etc., etc., etc., who cannot leave the confines of their establishment and have very little interaction with others during the Thanksgiving holiday. A parade which depicts any form of the symbolism of our freedoms to this holiday via whatever media manner it may be, is to be commended, and viewed. To mandate attendance at a parade in order to justify the parade is senseless! Perhaps the television should not have been invented....that would have discouraged a corporation from being formed! You certainly have quite a bit of empathy for those souls in rest homes, step-down units, elderly care unit, VA hospitals, local hospitals, etc., etc., etc., who cannot leave the confines of their establishment and have very little interaction with others during the Thanksgiving holiday. A parade which depicts any form of the symbolism of our freedoms to this holiday via whatever media manner it may be, is to be commended, and viewed. To mandate attendance at a parade in order to justify the parade is senseless! Perhaps the television should not have been invented….that would have discouraged a corporation from being formed!

]]> By: Karen http://www.parentsforethicalmarketing.org/blog/2007/11/21/thanksgiving-macys-and-the-shrek-marketing-machine/#comment-90 Karen Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:11:15 +0000 http://www.parentsforethicalmarketing.org/blog/2007/11/21/thanksgiving-macys-and-the-shrek-marketing-machine/#comment-90 Why do people even watch tv on Thanksgiving? I never did get that. Especially a parade--I love parades, but it seems pretty pointless to watch images of a parade that you're not actually *at*. Why do people even watch tv on Thanksgiving? I never did get that. Especially a parade–I love parades, but it seems pretty pointless to watch images of a parade that you’re not actually *at*.

]]> By: Shaping Youth » Marketing Mindfulness to Kids: Giving vs. Receiving http://www.parentsforethicalmarketing.org/blog/2007/11/21/thanksgiving-macys-and-the-shrek-marketing-machine/#comment-63 Shaping Youth » Marketing Mindfulness to Kids: Giving vs. Receiving Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:22:48 +0000 http://www.parentsforethicalmarketing.org/blog/2007/11/21/thanksgiving-macys-and-the-shrek-marketing-machine/#comment-63 [...] I’ll ping Lisa over at Corporate Babysitter to tackle that one, since she’s great at dissecting the details of kids’ marketing phenoms and unearthing stealthy [...] […] I’ll ping Lisa over at Corporate Babysitter to tackle that one, since she’s great at dissecting the details of kids’ marketing phenoms and unearthing stealthy […]

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